Let Helicopter Online Ground School help you with all of your ratings! We have four FAA certified courses, Private Pilot, Commercial Pilot, Instrument Pilot, and Certified Flight Instructor. We have a bundle pack called Professional Pilot Lifetime Membership, which includes all this for life.
Any course completion will automatically award WINGS phase credits and you are on your way to satisfying the flight review requirement.
Robinson helicopter, Enstrom helicopter, which are you going to pick? Hello, I'm Kenny Keller, the creator of Helicopter Online Ground School and I've had the opportunity to fly both of these great aircraft over the years as a student. I've flown them as an instructor. I've been paid to fly both. I'm going to start with the 2 different rotor systems that they have. The Enstrom is a fully articulated rotor system and is called a high inertia rotor system, which I can tell you is very, very good. With the Robinson R44, it's a semi rigid system and depends on who you talk to, whether they call it a low inertia or a high inertia. Definitely more inertia than the R22, which is a good thing.
One of the biggest benefits of the Enstrom is the high inertia system, the autorotation is absolutely incredible. If you enter it nice, it's not a lot of work. It's very, very stable. The semi-rigid system on the R44, it's nice, it's smooth, it's up, it has some inertia. Autorotations in the R-44 pretty decent as well. Between the 2 which is going to be better? That's something that people are probably going to argue back and forth. Rotor system on the Enstrom I can tell you is pretty darn tough. I survived a helicopter ground resonance incident about 10 years ago in the Enstrom 480, basically the same rotor system. Even though the entire aircraft was destroyed, the rotor system remained intact.
The only thing that was left of the aircraft was the rotor system and the rotor blades pretty much unharmed. With the R44 and the semi-rigid, there is something they call low G mast bumping that can be a catastrophic event and the fully articulated system does not suffer from that low G mast bumping. One thing there that probably would make me lean a little more toward the fully articulated on the Enstrom. Now just in case you're thinking oh he's already going to favor the Enstrom, let's go to the R44 and talk about some of the good things about the R44 that you don't have with the Enstrom. The R44 is a 4-place helicopter. You can see 2 in the front and 2 in the back.
The Enstrom they call a 3-seater. To be quite honest, 3 reasonable side adults like 3 normal size guys, they get in there and they're pretty squished in there. To call the 3-place, yes it is a place but it's going to work best with say 2 adults and a child in the middle, okay then you can call it a 3-seater. For the next plug for the Robinson, I personally think that the R44 as far as doing commercial operations is going to be the Enstrom hands down due to the fact that, let's use the example of helicopter rides. They have helicopter rides as a type of commercial thing that you want to do. You're going to be able to see 3 people, 3 pretty much normal sized people. You have a bigger engine, so you have more available power and for that operation most definitely.
I've done helicopter rides with the Enstrom, but again it's a 3-place, 2 and a half place. You have one person that might be a little on the heavier side. You're only going to be able to take up one person on that helicopter ride. For a couple of helicopters that are general vicinity of that price range of what somebody will be looking at for a personal aircraft or possibly doing some commercial stuff as far as helicopter rides, you're not going to be able to beat the R44. Hands down, and I know quite a few people out there doing like say crop dusting with R44. I'm sure there's probably some people doing it with the Enstrom, but I don't hear about it a lot. It's its more common as far as I know in the R44.
Next, we'll cover tail rotors for just a second. The Robinson is known for having a really good design on the tail rotor and a very effective tail rotor. I can also tell you that the tell tail rotor on the Enstrom also has pretty good reviews and they say that it's a really good system and a really good tail rotor as well. As far as flying the 2, I can't tell you that I noticed any big huge difference and I really would have no pic as far as which one would be the better. Next, I'd like to talk about the 2 as far as from a training environment with the fuel. With the Enstrom, I like that a lot because it has two 20-gallon tanks. There's a factory fuel stick that's right inside the door.
For training or every day flying, you go to fly to and go climbing the [PIC 00:04:32] seat and you just take that factory stick, put in the tank, you pull it out. You know exactly how much feel you have in the tanks. With the Robinson, you have a main and an aux tank. You can carry more fuel with you on board and it actually burns a little less per hour than the Enstrom. You have more range, but it's just not quite as easy in your head know exactly how much fuel is in there. You're kind of going by the gauge or by the fuel gauge. You can look in the tanks and check them. There's no factory stick to say exactly I know how much fuels in there and a little harder to figure when you have 2 tanks with different sizes.
Not a big deal, but as far as on a daily training basis, Enstrom makes a really, really easy to know exactly how much fuel you have in your tanks. Next, I want to talk about controls. Other big thing that people will talk about between the 2 aircraft, the Enstrom has a standard cyclic like most any helicopter has. Has 2 separate cyclics, one you can take out when you want to just be flying and not doing training, then you can put the other cyclic back in when you're going to be doing dual. This is one thing that we'll look at the Robinson in a minute that a lot of people have a complaint about, and I'm going to give you my thoughts on that.
This of course is nice. The other big thing is this does not have a governor. It does have a correlator, so you're operating the throttle, but it has a really good correlator. It only takes a little bit of finesse to operate that throttle so that's not really a big deal. On the Robinson, it's a governor and we'll talk more about that link it over there. As far as pedals is concerned, not a whole lot to really say there other than I think you have some more adjustment with the Enstrom over the Robinson. For me, no real big comparison there. The other thing is the cockpit on the Enstrom is definitely more roomy than the R44. The Enstrom gets an A plus on the room, that I can tell you.
The Enstrom can be a better choice for a heavier person and/or somebody who's really tall. Not saying you can't fly the Robinson, but just in general, that's one thing that might want a person to kind of lead over to the Enstrom as far as what would be right for them in between these 2 helicopters. Moving over to the Robinson, the one big thing here that everybody talks about is this handle right here is the cyclic. When you're flying on one side, you do this. The other person is flying, you just do that. When you first start flying these, it's really strange and you won't like it. To give Robinson credit, it works and once you get used to it, it's really not a big deal and it's not really different than anything else that you're going to fly.
I know I started and Schweizer's. When I switched to Robinson, I didn't like it and my instructor said, "Hey, it's still a helicopter. They all fly the same way. You'll get used to it. It will be no big deal." He was absolutely right. Once I got used to that, now does it bother me? Didn't bother me a bit. Then again we'll go to the collective. Does have a governor. A governor is nice because you can just turn the governor on and basically operate the collective up and down and you really don't have to do any throttle adjustment in normal situations. That to me, really isn't a big deal either. The governor is fine. The correlator is fine on the Enstrom. To me not really a big deal there.
Some people are intimidated if they learn on with the governor. They're intimidated when they get into an aircraft without one, but it doesn't take long to really get him the feel of what it takes to fly with the correlator. It's really not that bad. I guess the last big thing I would mention between the 2 would be maintenance and I'm not going to go into numbers. I can't really tell you. I have owned an Enstrom. Any helicopter is expensive hands down across the board. The maintenance wise, I would venture to say that maybe the Enstrom takes a little more than the Robinson, but again that's just a guess without ever actually owning an Robinson. It's hard for me to make an exact on that, but the Robinson does have a pretty good reputation now. That's one other place where I'll defend the Robinson.
There's a lot of Robinson haters out there and Robinson got a bad rap back in the beginning. I attended the Robinson school back in the late '90s, and they're very upfront and open about what went on with their helicopters in the beginning and their safety over the years has improved moved hundreds of times over. Robinson still has that stigma or that bad reputation from things that happened in the beginning and it's a completely different company now. The safety record is so much better now. I will say for Robinson as far as training goes, I think Robinson has the best training on the planet.
Yes, there's a special SFAR, but in turn because of the special SFARs, you're held to a higher standard and some of these things that you need to know for flying any helicopter, they really hit a lot harder with the SFAR 73. All in all that's not a bad thing. If you training the R22 or the R44, but particularly R22, when you move on to something else, you can jump into about any other aircraft and that's true, especially like say jumping in a jet ranger. If you grew up in the R22, you can jump in a hydraulic aircraft like the jet ranger. Anybody could fly that thing all day long. Enstrom, the big plug for that one, it's a tough bird man.
As an instructor over the years, have I done some stupid stuff and had some autos that went bad and smack the ground pretty hard? That I've done and I'm amazed at the beating that those aircraft can take. The R22 as well, when I was a brand new CFI, we had a couple of bad events in R22. When I was brand new with the owner of the company who was just a weekend warrior, he had a couple 100 hours and was just a private pilot, and I trusted him too much and auto went bad and we hit the ground. I have to say that the Robinson came out pretty well also considering the amount of force that was applied when we ended up on the runway. What would I pick, Robinson or Enstrom if I was going to buy one today? I would say what am I going to be doing with that aircraft.
If I was going to buy a helicopter to just have for fun and go out and fly and go where I want to go and enjoy myself and feels really really super safe, I would pick the Enstrom. Okay, with that being said, if I was buying a helicopter today between the 2 of them and I was going to use one that I wanted to have for training and use for commercial operations, I would have to say I would pick the R44. The question now is which one would you pick?
Check out free learning with our large collection of Podcasts!
All Topics #204 #233 #234 #256 #257 #258 #259 #260 #261 #263 #264 #265 #266 #267 #268 #269 #270 #271 #272 #273 #275 #276 #277 #278 #279 #280 #281 #282 #283 #284 #285 #286 #287 #288 #289 #290 #291 #292 #293 #294 #295 #296 #297 coffee with kenny #55 #59 #60 #79 #90 180 autorotation 180 degree turn 200 pilot hours 2018 flight instructor of the year 2019 heli expo 3rd class medical 40 hours 91.119 91.17 accident acs add on add on pilot reactions aeronautical afi aft cyclic aircraft accidents aircraft checks airline pilot to helicopter pilot airport ramp airspace airspace lessons airwork las vegas amazing helicopter pilots approach autorotation autorotation overspeeds autorotations aviation weather aviation weather tools behind the scenes bell 47 bell jet ranger block time cabri cabri g2 cabri helicopter california california choppers california highway patrol canadian helicopter pilot training certified flight instructor cfi cfi time cfi training cfii check ride check ride passed check ride prep check ride preparation check ride study guide check ride success check ride tips class g vs class d clearing turns closed runway coffee with kenny coffeewithkenny cold weather flying collective angle collective control college degree commercial check ride commercial helicopter pilot commercial pilot commercial pilot requirements cost of flying helicopters crasg crash cross country cross country helicopter flight cyclic hovering cyclic speed cyclic trim dan "taz" christman day 249 day 250 day 252 day 253 day 254 day 255 day 4 doors off flying dynamic rollover ems ems helicopter jobs ems pilot ems pilots endorsements engine failure enstrom enstrom helicopter enstrom helicopter transition enstrom helicopters enstrom transition etl effective translational lift lesson experimental helicopters eye exam eye test faa faa medical certificate exam faa safety faa wings faa wings credit faa written test fatal helicopter accidents fear of failure female pilot first class medical first flight fixed wing fixed wing add on fixed wing before rotor? fixed wing or helicopter fixed wing time flight computers flight instruction flight instructor of the year recommendation flight reviews flight school flight school scams flight schools flight simulators flight trainging flight training flying in indiana flying with passengers and cargo foi's foreflight foreflight on ipad foreign helicopter student foreign student helicopter training free helicopter ground school frequency of flying future pilots golden gate bridge governor vs throttle ground resonance ground school on any computer or device ground school podcast guarding the collective guimbal guimbal cabri g2 guimbal cabri g2 training hangar safety hazards headsets helcopter ground schools heli expo heli expo 2019 helicopter helicopter abnormal vibrations helicopter accident helicopter accident review helicopter accidents helicopter add on helicopter add on rating helicopter aerobatics helicopter altitude helicopter approach helicopter approach and landing helicopter careers helicopter cfi helicopter cfi pilot helicopter cfii helicopter cfii pilot helicopter check ride helicopter check ride prepare helicopter check ride test tips helicopter check ride tips helicopter checklist helicopter chip light helicopter collective helicopter confined area landings helicopter controls helicopter cost helicopter cross country helicopter dolly helicopter dolly monster helicopter dreams helicopter ems jobs helicopter ems pilot helicopter engine failure helicopter faq's helicopter fatal accidents helicopter ferry flights helicopter flight helicopter flight control helicopter flight controls helicopter flight instructor helicopter flight instructor of the year helicopter flight lessons helicopter flight over water helicopter flight prep helicopter flight school helicopter flight schools helicopter flight time helicopter flight time hours helicopter flight tips helicopter flight training helicopter flight training schools helicopter flight training' helicopter flying at night helicopter flying handbook helicopter fuel helicopter fuel amount helicopter fuel gauge helicopter go around's helicopter ground helicopter ground school helicopter ground schools helicopter handbook helicopter hangar helicopter hems pilot helicopter hours helicopter hovering helicopter icing helicopter instructing helicopter instructor helicopter instrument pilot helicopter instrument training helicopter insurance helicopter intro flights helicopter jobs helicopter knee board helicopter landing helicopter lesson helicopter lessons helicopter lift helicopter logging flight time helicopter maneuvers helicopter maximum performance take off helicopter mel and mmel helicopter motion sickness helicopter night vision goggles helicopter online flight schools helicopter online ground school helicopter online ground schools helicopter online school helicopter online training helicopter ownership helicopter pedals helicopter pilot helicopter pilot careers helicopter pilot education helicopter pilot flight risk assessment matrix helicopter pilot jobs helicopter pilot lessons helicopter pilot medication use helicopter pilot retirement helicopter pilot schools helicopter pilot training helicopter pilot weather decisions helicopter pilots helicopter practice test helicopter pre flight helicopter preflight helicopter preheating helicopter private pilot helicopter private pilot cost helicopter radio call helicopter radio communications helicopter rating helicopter rental helicopter rides helicopter right pedal helicopter rotor blade safety helicopter running landing helicopter safety helicopter safety briefing helicopter safety procedures helicopter safety team helicopter safety tips helicopter schools helicopter seats helicopter set down helicopter set downs helicopter simulaters helicopter solo helicopter solo flight helicopter stuck pedal helicopter student helicopter student pilot helicopter student pilots helicopter students helicopter study notebook helicopter take off helicopter test flight helicopter throttle helicopter timer helicopter torque limits helicopter tour accidents helicopter tour business helicopter tours helicopter training helicopter tree trimming helicopter trimming helicopter utility inspection pilot helicopter weather helicopter wire strikes helicopter written test helicopters heliport accident prevention - what you don't know can kill you! helmets high school graduate helicopter pilot hobbs time hogs hogs hangar hogs mobile app hogs vlog hogs wall of fame hour requirements hover hover pre take off checks hovering hovering autorotations hovering flight hovering with pedals how to become a helicopter pilot iimc imc inadvertent imc inadvertent imc fatal accident review indy 500 instructor instrument helicopter pilot instrument helicopter rating instrument pilot instrument pilot online course instrument pilot rating insurance requirements introduction just breathe ken keller field kenny keller kobe bryant lake tahoe landing landing in snow law enforcement pilot learn to fly live training live training tuesday loss of tail rotor effectiveness loss of tail rotor thrust low g low rotor rpm lte lte loss of tail rotor effectiveness lesson main and tail rotors maximum performance takeoff medical cerificate medical certifcate member support mesh michael waltrip motivation national guard helicopter pilot new york city helicopter tour pilot night flight goggles online ground school online helicopter ground school online helicopter ground schools online helicopter school online helicopter schools online helicopter training part 141 part 141 flight school part 61 part 61 flight school part 91 pencil whipping perfect pinnacle pic pilot failures pilot in command pilot jobs pilot motivation pilot passion pilot shortage poh police helicopters post flight checks pre-flight checks preflight checklist pressure altitude private check ride private pilot private pilot hours private pilot requirements professional helicopter pilot professional pilot pts pumping collective quick stops r-22 r-22 transition r22 training r22 vs r44 r44 r66 radio communication radio communications raido calls remote pilot required helicopter ems hours retreating blade stall robinson robinson helicopter robinson helicopters robinson r-22 robinson r-22 preflight robinson r-44 robinson r22 roman atwood rotors colliding rotorway helicopter schools schweizer helicopters scud running september11 settling with power sfar73 awareness training smile more llc solo solo flight stirring the pot student helicopter pilot student helicopter pilots student pilot student pilots tail rotor dangers tail rotor direction tail rotor failure tail rotor failures tail rotor malfunction tail rotor strikes tail rotor thrust test testimonials thank you veterans i r-44 ferry flight i throttle chop throttle chops tim tucker top ten check ride tips towered airports training syllabus transition from r-22 turbine time turkey sandwich updates vfr charts vfr in ifr vision vortex ring state vuichard recovery method weekend helicopter flying weight limitations written test prep youtuber